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QuotesMemorable quotes from Hope in Source episodes.Quotes Hope in Source off-the-cuff conversations between friends finding the sacred in the ordinary universal within the particular where word becomes flesh with Henry & Nadia Snow is a Commons ↗ Mar 4, 2026 · 1 day ago Quotes Questions Episodes Assertions Wonderings Words Henry Snow is a Commons ↗ This is like open source. If everything was for how beautiful things could be. Melody Snow is a Commons ↗ All we have in this age of AI is what we are uniquely experiencing. Melody Internet Checkpoint ↗ The seed needs to be extremely high quality. The seed of the idea, and then it'll produce the fruit of your project. Henry Internet Checkpoint ↗ There is no inevitability as long as there's a willingness to understand what is happening. Sonya Salience ↗ I see patterns often in that light as being a way to speak to the universe or a way for the universe to speak to us, in the patterns. Sonya Salience ↗ I see Christianity as being, Jesus comes in, conquers death, and allows us to be okay with death being a part of life, because it isn't the final ending that we mortally conceive of it as. Melody The Façade of Control ↗ It's this idea that technology gives us this illusion of control, and we're continuing to move in that direction. But much of being a Christian is about the giving up of control. Henry The Façade of Control ↗ Our reason to make all this technology is because we're unable to have real community. We scale our lack of character and humanity by scaling technology instead of ourselves. Henry Unpacking Belief ↗ We feel safe when we have a lot of options, but the safest thing is committing, which is scary. Henry Unpacking Belief ↗ Faith in anything is about commitment to what you believe in, whether it's yourself, a company, science, or God. Austin Sacred Charity ↗ People are just individually irreplaceable. Engineering is about kinda getting rid of those differences in some sense. When you engineer a system, you try to make it replicable. You try to use pieces that are interchangeable. Austin Sacred Charity ↗ God himself decided to take the Sabbath, the seventh day off. And so who are we to think that we can power through every feature request at 2:00 AM on Sunday. Sonya Right Feeling ↗ Christianity itself could be looked at from that lens. Something that can seem kind of quaint and archaic from the outside, but from the inside it's just as fresh and alive as ever. Henry Right Feeling ↗ We delight to praise what we enjoy because it doesn't just express what we like, but also completes the enjoyment. It is its appointed consummation. Drew Artificial Physicality ↗ A city is a medium, but the internet is a different medium where it just happens to be one of the primary theaters where human nature plays out today. Drew Artificial Physicality ↗ In the physical world, you can be silent and present at the same time. We could be sitting in this room together, not talking, and there would be some benefit of shared human contact there, even though there was no quote unquote content. Michael Everyone is "Protestant" Online ↗ When we go for the most efficient method or tool or device or whatever, there's often no way of even accounting for what you're losing. Michael Everyone is "Protestant" Online ↗ A frictionless life may promise ease in a certain security, but also leaves us adrift chasing one superficial pleasure after another, never satisfied because we never experienced a struggle against resistance that is essential to a sense of accomplishment. Alex Finding Hope Amid Burnout ↗ Part of the reason why you may feel burnout is, everything becomes kind of a task. You're really no longer in the moment. And it's almost like you are outside of your body. Alex Finding Hope Amid Burnout ↗ How can the Church sort of be the kind of wire cutters for this chain linked fence that we call hopelessness? Nick Digital Communion ↗ What we think is clarity and accuracy is sometimes neutering the messiness of everything. Nick Digital Communion ↗ Authentic religion is full of ambiguity. It's full of the unknown. David History is Necromancy ↗ Progress is not a thought of our civilization, it's the form of our civilization. So it's not a content that we think about. It's the way that we think. David History is Necromancy ↗ Surprises is what you can't see coming. It comes from beyond the horizon that you inevitably will establish. And if you can't be surprised, that's really the end. Esther Reality is Personal ↗ It's not so much that reality answers your questions as that it explodes them. Reality really is in the driver's seat. So it walks in and takes over. Esther Reality is Personal ↗ Modernity is characterized by saying no, where we need to say yes. And actually there's a term for that. It's acedia, which is one of the seven deadly sins. Conley The Dorean Principle ↗ If ministry ought to be offered freely, and not given with reciprocity, expecting something in return, then it ought to be offered with a free license, provided that someone is conscious enough to think about licensing. Conley The Dorean Principle ↗ The gospel is offered freely and that's kind of what makes it distinctive from what's offered in many religions of the world. By your own effort, you earn righteousness, but Christianity is unique in that what it offers is entirely free. Michael Attending to Silence ↗ Silence is a critical part of human communication. It's meaningful. Two bodies in proximity being silent before one another are still having a kind of meaningful exchange as it were between the two of them. Michael Attending to Silence ↗ Do I live in such a way that I am prepared to be surprised? By my circumstances, by the world, by people. If I only ever think about my self given goals, I'm inhabiting the world in such a way that I'm not able to see what may be there. Michael Ivan Illich ↗ How do I refuse the framing that modern technological culture offers to me, of being the one who will master and control the world. The one who sees the world as raw material for my own projects. Michael Ivan Illich ↗ Maybe the answer is not more, but less. Or differently configured. Henry Digital Disembodiment ↗ Ideally, we would know ourselves, when we feel anything. When I feel emotions, when I feel like my body needs food or whatever. And then you could see a moment where the app will tell me everything and then I won't need to rely on my own sense of feeling. Maggie Digital Disembodiment ↗ We have no affordances that suggest presence without noise. Stephen Software Tetris ↗ Losing at Tetris is basically the state of software right now where blocks are just falling into place. We don't have time, we don't have the resources to put them in the right place, so they just kind of pile up. Stephen Software Tetris ↗ We sort of deliberately create a sort of shifting sands that we then build on. It's kind of hilarious when you look at it from that distance. Omar TabFS ↗ A good project idea comes out of some kind of personal history or personal relationship that you have with the concepts or with the system. It's something that not anybody could just come up with and try. Sonya Essence ↗ The concepts that we use to understand the world. And it almost like changes the shape of how you see the world. Sonya Essence ↗ I don't think of a material reality as being like distinct from religious reality. It's just all the same thing. Maybe that's one of the things that is so intoxicating about Christianity and about faith is like becoming part of this integrated whole. Sonya Reconversion ↗ A not insignificant part of coming back to religion for me was feeling this like insufficiency of rationalism, where I felt like it really wasn't actually answering all of my questions or some of the answers felt really like incomplete, unsatisfying. Sonya Reconversion ↗ I see reality overall as being kind of fractal, where you have patterns that repeat on every scale. And that's kind of how I think of the core symbolism of Christianity. Alex Approaching Advent ↗ These rituals again, they're not things that we just do alongside our active remembrance. They themselves are the remembrance. It's a memorial that causes us to remember. Alex Approaching Advent ↗ Christian history and Christian conceptions of time is both cyclical and linear. It's a spiral. Maggie Technology as Process ↗ A pot and a pan suggests how you should use it if it's designed well. So it has both embodied knowledge and external knowledge in it. The artifact teaches you how to use itself in a certain way. Maggie Technology as Process ↗ In the capitalist cosmology of this system, the reward is money instead of salvation. If we're going to call American capitalism a religious belief system in itself, which wouldn't be too difficult to argue, it is that your eternal salvation is you become a millionaire and buy a Ferrari. Henry Embodied Knowledge ↗ If we want to know somebody, you're not going to do all your research on someone before you get to know them. It's good to have some kind of context, but wouldn't you rather just actually talk to them? Maggie Embodied Knowledge ↗ Singing a hymn that has been sung for thousands of years and you think, Oh, well, you know, it has no meaning to me, let's just not do it anymore. You're not making space for what maybe it can like teach you that you aren't consciously aware of. Michael The Convivial Society ↗ One of the threats of modern tools and modern institutions is that they teach us to depend upon the products that they offer or the services they render, instead of our neighbor. Michael The Convivial Society ↗ To simply look at the world is not to see it. And so we need to learn to see, and part of that I think involves the learning to name the world. Michael Natural Limits ↗ The proposition that there should be limits is a kind of modern heresy. It goes against something deeply ingrained in Western modernity. Michael Natural Limits ↗ We are kind of asking the question constantly, not is this one thing right or wrong necessarily, but what kind of person am I becoming? Omar Emotional Programming ↗ I think emotions are a big deal in programming. Like I think most of the work in programming is managing your own feelings about it. Omar Emotional Programming ↗ Content and presentation are always inseparable. And often when you do this naive translation of stuff that's in a physical medium into your computer screen, you lose a lot of important parts of the presentation. Marianita Inhabiting Heritage ↗ Inhabiting is the best way to maintain a building alive. Marianita Inhabiting Heritage ↗ We deny completely the dimension of taking care the space we live. In a daily scale, we don't make it visible. We don't look for it. It's this blurry part of life on which we all depend. Nadia Managing Over-Participation ↗ Imagine trying to collaborate with your comment section is kind of like at the heart of why this stuff is so challenging. Nadia Managing Over-Participation ↗ There's always going to be this cycle of some things becoming more institutionalized and then people kind of pushing again to the fringes and making new things. And I think that's just like a really beautiful dance that we all kind of go through. Tara Very Online ↗ The sort of turn, which I think is phenomenologically true, towards a kind of intuitional model of understanding. Sort of trusting your gut, rejecting external, believing that your desires are kind of ontologically good. Nicole Towards Shalom ↗ There's equal glory in you being a garbage woman that there is in you being like a pastor, a theologian, or like a great nonprofit worker. Nicole Towards Shalom ↗ A lot of the way we can frame our purpose as human beings is to be sub-creators and sub-restorers of Shalom. Philip Life After Digital Death ↗ I purposely want it so that between episodes, people have that context. So it almost feels like episodes of a TV show where you're assuming that people for the most part have read the previous one. Philip Life After Digital Death ↗ I talked to family and friends who aren't online. For them the small scale is the only scale. So I'm like, let me go back to doing that. It's like, wait, nobody says I can't go back to doing that. Philip Unlisting Yourself ↗ By just kind of quitting you just free up your mind. They were known for Seinfeld obviously, but they also had a bunch of stuff afterwards. So I find that's pretty admirable. Shawn Open Knowledge ↗ Open source code is better than closed source code because there's more people looking at it. It's easy to contribute. But the way that we treat our knowledge is very close source. Shawn Open Knowledge ↗ People don't know that git is only 15 years old. There was a time before git. But it also means that five and 15 years from now, we would be doing completely different things. Jordan Nostalgia and Not Taking Yourself Too Seriously ↗ It is a celebration, if you will, of retro computing. I was born in the early '90s. So I grew up playing games on Windows 98. Really, my first time on the computer was Windows 98. Henry Embodiment Through Metaphors ↗ When the program dies, it's not when the program doesn't work, it's when the people don't understand how it works. Maggie Embodiment Through Metaphors ↗ All dirt is contextual. It all just depends on where we draw the boundaries. Maggie Open Source as a Gift Economy ↗ If the thing that makes gift exchange means something to us, if we lose that direct social relationship, that's what threatens it maybe. That's what makes the economy not quite function the way we wish it would. Maggie Open Source as a Gift Economy ↗ Patreon in a way is running under the guise of being a gift economy. All their marketing language and the way they pitch themselves is very much that we are supporting the new internet gift economy, but on the actual functional level they are pure market economy. Jonathan The Commitment to Infinite Uptime ↗ As conservators and archivists, we're kind of tethered to these technologies that we don't have much control over. We can't tell Firefox, don't deprecate this thing because this artwork depends on it. Jonathan The Commitment to Infinite Uptime ↗ Our purpose is not to make something better. It's to make it as faithful to the original as possible. Wendy Preserving the (Digital) Past ↗ That emotional reaction to technology, whether it's a digital file or a piece of software or a piece of hardware or whatever is really fascinating. It makes me hopeful, I think, for the future of how people will value their archives. Wendy Preserving the (Digital) Past ↗ In archives, it's often materials that only exist in this single place, in this single instance. So it's that uniqueness and the rare quality of things that makes them particularly special. Anthony Mastery and Learning through Games ↗ You can watch all the basketball you want, but you're going to have to actually go out and play to actually develop some kind of mastery. Philip Growing Old with the Web ↗ If you read, you have no idea what someone is like. You might get some sense by how they write and what they choose to write about, but you're often surprised when you see them in person. Philip Growing Old with the Web ↗ I think developing these core skills opens up new things. It pushes the frontier outward of what the possibilities of what you can possibly do. Jory The Significance of Standards ↗ The state that we're in today is a function of decisions that were made 20 years ago. Jory The Significance of Standards ↗ People are the hardest part of software. The way I have been thinking about this for a while now is like, how can we solve the human interoperability problem, which will help improve a lot of our technical interoperability problems. Evan Funding One's Freedom ↗ The nice thing about it being an open source project is we don't really have a burn rate, we don't have a runway. That relieves us from having to always rush. Evan Funding One's Freedom ↗ When you are working on something that has no history burden, there's no obligation or anything, you're much more free to just let your creativity lead to whatever you want, where it wants to go. Mikeal Getting Old in Open Source ↗ Open source is a really organic process that seems to mostly be working. People seem to get things done. They seem to communicate. It's definitely better than it's ever been. Stephanie Perception of Value ↗ If what you care about is having a big impact on the world, the business skills arguably did that just as much as the code. People don't just use things because they're out there. Stephanie Perception of Value ↗ People want to help you. It's not like you're trying to force people to do something they don't want to do. They want to help. Stephanie Boundaries ↗ Being firm allows you to not have that pent up aggression and be kinder overall. Stephanie Boundaries ↗ Boundaries are always most compassionate if set early. Omnigamer Speedrunning as Research ↗ You have a game that's kind of its own scientific field, where it's completely unknown at the start, it's a black box, but you can gradually start to pick away and find out what's going on with it. Henry Haircut ↗ We want to treat everything like a robot or a program because it's easy to reason about those things. But reality is so complicated that it actually makes more sense to treat it as living. Timothy City as Liturgy ↗ They substituted a living, very sophisticated, rich and subtle order, with something that was visually flashy and comprehensible, but that was outside of time and therefore dead. Timothy City as Liturgy ↗ The young can access information but wisdom comes with time because the whole thing about learning and an organic system is that it's gonna get to know you as you get to know it and it's gonna leave its mark on you. Nadia Trust ↗ The secret to a very long-lasting relationship is having some part of that person that you don't fully know. Henry Trust ↗ You have people that are unpaid, that probably most maintainers are accidental. They didn't have experience in maintaining before. And yet, somehow you actually are able to make things happen. And in that sense this is almost surreal in a way. Henry Liturgy ↗ The act of doing that thing will make you want to do it more. In open source, we have this initial motivation to contribute, but the only way that's sustained is if you're continuing to do it. Through the practice of doing open source I learned to love it more. Henry Liturgy ↗ A liturgy or habit is a practice that helps you embody the value you believe in. Nadia Authority and Leadership ↗ Being guided by your own intrinsic motivation to contribute at whatever level feels right is sort of like, the ultimate authority that you're submitting to or letting yourself be guided by. Henry Authority and Leadership ↗ People don't really understand why they believe what they believe, or they forgot about it because it becomes just like a what you do. Henry Mythology and Symbolism ↗ I think a lot of being in a faith community is about being a part of community. Especially in our current age where it's a lot of focus on individualism and everything that we do in our lives is like kind of making us forced to think about ourselves more. Nadia Mythology and Symbolism ↗ Tradition is also like participatory. You have to connect to it or else it doesn't really work. It's more that you're joining a long line of people that are doing this thing versus you're not just aping whatever someone did 300 years ago. Henry Money ↗ The point of the tithing is to help people but it's also to help yourself whether you're like, it's an opportunity for you to kind of act out that belief that, you know, your money is not yours. Nadia Money ↗ You could have all the money in the world but you're one person, like, that's also, like, you just can't even deliver on all the things you wanna do. So you need other people to help out. Henry Evangelism ↗ If you don't actually truly believe it yourself and live it out, then how are you gonna be able to show or convince that in anyone else? Nadia Evangelism ↗ It's really important for a community to act as though everyone is watching because you don't know who might have stumbled upon your project and was thinking about contributing and then they saw something and then it just put them off and then they left. Henry Holy Inefficiency ↗ You can spend your whole life, you can go to a seminary and study about God, you can read about God, you can listen to podcasts about God, you can talk about it. And yet in the end, you might not actually know him at all, because you turned it into this kind of game where there's a number attached to it. Henry Holy Inefficiency ↗ To be in a relationship is actually to be inefficient. Nadia Intrinsic Motivation ↗ The definition of faith is that you don't know what you're having faith in, that what you're doing makes sense or this is the right thing to be doing. It's a lot about trusting yourself and being very inwardly focused instead of looking for external indicators of how well you're doing. Nadia Intrinsic Motivation ↗ Fear and hope are both really strong motivators, and they're sort of like two sides of the same coin but it seems a lot healthier and happier to think about, how do I take fear and turn it into hope and excitement for the future? Henry Community Membership ↗ It's not because I'm devoted that I'm going. It's 'cause going will make me more devoted as well. Same with open source. Continuing to do it will make me continue to want to do it. Nadia Community Membership ↗ There's something intangible about a maintainer, where your level of commitment is strong enough that you're going up or down with the ship. Henry Faith and Open Source ↗ It feels like all this stuff in technology's about making things better for yourself or making money, and just very materialistic and robotic, in a sense. And yet this is more about helping others, and not necessarily thinking about yourself. Henry Faith and Open Source ↗ We have habits that affect how we actually live and what we believe, and sometimes what we think we believe isn't what we end up doing because we don't practice it. show 104 more Praise view thread ppl have only barely begun to understand the resonance between open source and christianity — @syntacrobat Presentation and message that intertwined. Lovely podcast here. — @opeispo Really been enjoying the Hope in Source podcast from @nayafia and @left_pad. — Nicholas C. Zakas @slicknet Just listened to the first episode and one of the things that came to mind is the connection between motivation for giving and anticipated benefits/rewards, as with the prosperity gospel movement. I wonder what the parallels between that and Open source might be — jory burson @jorydotcom Really encouraged by @left_pad and @nayafia's podcast series "Hope In Source". Not only from the insightful discussions and parallels drawn, but also by their commitment to learn and explore some of the greater questions in life with a childlike heart of awe and wonder. — Jonathan Tsao @JonathanTsao Hosts: Nadia & Henry Cover Art: Jessica Han • Music: Ken Wheeler Sponsor 01001100 01101111 01100111 01101111 01110011enen1772870521https://hopeinsource.com

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